diff --git a/wled00/FX.h b/wled00/FX.h
index 677005f2..4e408254 100644
--- a/wled00/FX.h
+++ b/wled00/FX.h
@@ -976,6 +976,7 @@ class WS2812FX {  // 96 bytes
       now,
       timebase;
     uint32_t __attribute__((pure)) getPixelColor(uint_fast16_t)  const;   // WLEDMM attribute pure = does not have side-effects
+    uint32_t __attribute__((pure)) getPixelColorRestored(uint_fast16_t i)  const;// WLEDMM gets the original color from the driver (without downscaling by _bri)
 
     inline uint32_t getLastShow(void)  const { return _lastShow; }
     inline uint32_t segColor(uint8_t i)  const { return _colors_t[i]; }
@@ -1068,6 +1069,8 @@ class WS2812FX {  // 96 bytes
     std::vector<segment> _segments;
     friend class Segment;
 
+    uint32_t getPixelColorXYRestored(uint16_t x, uint16_t y)  const;  // WLEDMM gets the original color from the driver (without downscaling by _bri)
+
   private:
     uint16_t _length;
     uint8_t  _brightness;
diff --git a/wled00/FX_2Dfcn.cpp b/wled00/FX_2Dfcn.cpp
index 9ac62e1d..0803ad1a 100644
--- a/wled00/FX_2Dfcn.cpp
+++ b/wled00/FX_2Dfcn.cpp
@@ -249,6 +249,17 @@ uint32_t __attribute__((hot)) WS2812FX::getPixelColorXY(uint16_t x, uint16_t y)
   return busses.getPixelColor(index);
 }
 
+uint32_t __attribute__((hot)) WS2812FX::getPixelColorXYRestored(uint16_t x, uint16_t y)  const {  // WLEDMM gets the original color from the driver (without downscaling by _bri)
+  #ifndef WLED_DISABLE_2D
+    uint_fast16_t index = (y * Segment::maxWidth + x); //WLEDMM: use fast types
+  #else
+    uint16_t index = x;
+  #endif
+  if (index < customMappingSize) index = customMappingTable[index];
+  if (index >= _length) return 0;
+  return busses.getPixelColorRestored(index);
+}
+
 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
 // Segment:: routines
 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
@@ -467,7 +478,7 @@ uint32_t IRAM_ATTR_YN Segment::getPixelColorXY(int x, int y) const {
   x *= groupLength_; // expand to physical pixels
   y *= groupLength_; // expand to physical pixels
   if (x >= width() || y >= height()) return 0;
-  return strip.getPixelColorXY(start + x, startY + y);
+  return strip.getPixelColorXYRestored(start + x, startY + y);
 }
 
 // Blends the specified color with the existing pixel color.
diff --git a/wled00/FX_fcn.cpp b/wled00/FX_fcn.cpp
index 51087562..f2ed3e20 100644
--- a/wled00/FX_fcn.cpp
+++ b/wled00/FX_fcn.cpp
@@ -1304,7 +1304,7 @@ uint32_t __attribute__((hot)) Segment::getPixelColor(int i) const
   if (offset < INT16_MAX) i += offset; // WLEDMM
   if ((i >= stop) && (stop>0)) i -= length(); // WLEDMM avoid negative index (stop = 0 is a possible value)
   if (i<0) i=0; // WLEDMM just to be 100% sure
-  return strip.getPixelColor(i);
+  return strip.getPixelColorRestored(i);
 }
 
 uint8_t Segment::differs(Segment& b) const {
@@ -1943,6 +1943,12 @@ uint32_t WS2812FX::getPixelColor(uint_fast16_t i) const // WLEDMM fast int types
   return busses.getPixelColor(i);
 }
 
+uint32_t WS2812FX::getPixelColorRestored(uint_fast16_t i)  const  // WLEDMM gets the original color from the driver (without downscaling by _bri)
+{
+  if (i < customMappingSize) i = customMappingTable[i];
+  if (i >= _length) return 0;
+  return busses.getPixelColorRestored(i);
+}
 
 //DISCLAIMER
 //The following function attemps to calculate the current LED power usage,
diff --git a/wled00/bus_manager.cpp b/wled00/bus_manager.cpp
index fa205c44..66a417e8 100644
--- a/wled00/bus_manager.cpp
+++ b/wled00/bus_manager.cpp
@@ -890,6 +890,14 @@ uint32_t BusHub75Matrix::getPixelColor(uint16_t pix) const {
     return getBitFromArray(_ledsDirty, pix) ? DARKGREY: BLACK;   // just a hack - we only know if the pixel is black or not
 }
 
+uint32_t __attribute__((hot)) BusHub75Matrix::getPixelColorRestored(uint16_t pix) const {
+  if (!_valid || pix >= _len) return BLACK;
+  if (_ledBuffer)
+    return uint32_t(_ledBuffer[pix]) & 0x00FFFFFF;
+  else
+    return getBitFromArray(_ledsDirty, pix) ? DARKGREY: BLACK;   // just a hack - we only know if the pixel is black or not
+}
+
 void BusHub75Matrix::setBrightness(uint8_t b, bool immediate) {
   _bri = b;
   // if (_bri > 238) _bri=238; // not strictly needed. Enable this line if you see glitches at highest brightness.
@@ -1106,6 +1114,27 @@ uint32_t IRAM_ATTR  __attribute__((hot)) BusManager::getPixelColor(uint_fast16_t
   return 0;
 }
 
+uint32_t IRAM_ATTR  __attribute__((hot)) BusManager::getPixelColorRestored(uint_fast16_t pix) {     // WLEDMM uses bus::getPixelColorRestored()
+  if ((pix >= laststart) && (pix < lastend ) && (lastBus != nullptr)) {
+    // WLEDMM same bus as last time - no need to search again
+    return lastBus->getPixelColorRestored(pix - laststart);
+  }
+
+  for (uint_fast8_t i = 0; i < numBusses; i++) {
+    Bus* b = busses[i];
+    uint_fast16_t bstart = b->getStart();
+    if (pix < bstart || pix >= bstart + b->getLength()) continue;
+    else {
+      // WLEDMM remember last Bus we took
+      lastBus = b;
+      laststart = bstart; 
+      lastend = bstart + b->getLength();
+      return b->getPixelColorRestored(pix - bstart);
+    }
+  }
+  return 0;
+}
+
 bool BusManager::canAllShow() const {
   for (uint8_t i = 0; i < numBusses; i++) {
     if (!busses[i]->canShow()) return false;
diff --git a/wled00/bus_manager.h b/wled00/bus_manager.h
index 80488b6a..677e71de 100644
--- a/wled00/bus_manager.h
+++ b/wled00/bus_manager.h
@@ -135,6 +135,7 @@ class Bus {
     virtual void     setStatusPixel(uint32_t c) {}
     virtual void     setPixelColor(uint16_t pix, uint32_t c) = 0;
     virtual uint32_t getPixelColor(uint16_t pix) const { return 0; }
+    virtual uint32_t getPixelColorRestored(uint16_t pix) const { return restore_Color_Lossy(getPixelColor(pix), _bri); } // override in case your bus has a lossless buffer (HUB75, FastLED, Art-Net)
     virtual void     setBrightness(uint8_t b, bool immediate=false) { _bri = b; }
     virtual void     cleanup() = 0;
     virtual uint8_t  getPins(uint8_t* pinArray) const { return 0; }
@@ -183,6 +184,17 @@ class Bus {
     inline static void    setGlobalAWMode(uint8_t m)  { if (m < 5) _gAWM = m; else _gAWM = AW_GLOBAL_DISABLED; }
     inline static uint8_t getGlobalAWMode()           { return _gAWM; }
 
+    inline uint32_t restore_Color_Lossy(uint32_t c, uint8_t restoreBri) const { // shamelessly grabbed from upstream, who grabbed from NPB, who ..
+      if (restoreBri < 255) {
+        uint8_t* chan = (uint8_t*) &c;
+        for (uint_fast8_t i=0; i<4; i++) {
+          uint_fast16_t val = chan[i];
+          chan[i] = ((val << 8) + restoreBri) / (restoreBri + 1); //adding _bri slightly improves recovery / stops degradation on re-scale
+        }
+      }
+      return c;
+    }
+
     bool reversed = false;
 
   protected:
@@ -296,6 +308,7 @@ class BusOnOff : public Bus {
     void setPixelColor(uint16_t pix, uint32_t c);
 
     uint32_t getPixelColor(uint16_t pix) const;
+    uint32_t getPixelColorRestored(uint16_t pix) const override { return getPixelColor(pix);}  // WLEDMM BusOnOff ignores brightness
 
     void show();
 
@@ -326,6 +339,7 @@ class BusNetwork : public Bus {
     void setPixelColor(uint16_t pix, uint32_t c);
 
     uint32_t __attribute__((pure)) getPixelColor(uint16_t pix) const;  // WLEDMM attribute added
+    uint32_t __attribute__((pure)) getPixelColorRestored(uint16_t pix) const override { return getPixelColor(pix);}  // WLEDMM BusNetwork ignores brightness
 
     void show();
 
@@ -367,6 +381,7 @@ class BusHub75Matrix : public Bus {
 
     void setPixelColor(uint16_t pix, uint32_t c) override;
     uint32_t getPixelColor(uint16_t pix) const override;
+    uint32_t getPixelColorRestored(uint16_t pix) const override; // lossless getPixelColor supported
 
     void show(void) override;
 
@@ -418,6 +433,7 @@ class BusManager {
     void setSegmentCCT(int16_t cct, bool allowWBCorrection = false);
 
     uint32_t __attribute__((pure)) getPixelColor(uint_fast16_t pix); // WLEDMM attribute added
+    uint32_t __attribute__((pure)) getPixelColorRestored(uint_fast16_t pix);  // WLEDMM
 
     bool canAllShow() const;
 
diff --git a/wled00/ws.cpp b/wled00/ws.cpp
index 85bad64d..f6c1e862 100644
--- a/wled00/ws.cpp
+++ b/wled00/ws.cpp
@@ -251,6 +251,7 @@ static bool sendLiveLedsWs(uint32_t wsClient)  // WLEDMM added "static"
     }
   #endif
     uint32_t c = restoreColorLossy(strip.getPixelColor(i), stripBrightness); // WLEDMM full bright preview - does _not_ recover ABL reductions
+    //uint32_t c = strip.getPixelColorRestored(i);
     // WLEDMM begin: preview with color gamma correction
     if (gammaCorrectPreview) {
       uint8_t w = W(c);  // not sure why, but it looks better if using "white" without corrections